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[yucca]

Приз за самый изобретательный аргумент выдается averros.
...the evidence of Marxist views of Obama is in the plain view. You are welcome to explain how his platform substantially differs from the program in the Communist Manifesto.

Надо взять на вооружение. Кто-то меня в чем-то пытается убедить, а я ему гордо: "You are welcome to explain how you substantially differ from a camel".

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You should also consider the fact that admitting himself a Marxist would immediately put Obama out of race - the name is nearly as discredited as Nazism (which is short for "national socialism"). So it would be naive to assume that the final goals would be put in the current program - but if the current goals are consistent with moving towards socialism, then, well...

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[yucca.livejournal.com]

So what's new here besides repeating your all-purpose line that everyone is Marxist who's not an extreme libertarian?

[averros.livejournal.com]

Not really. There are (or were) other kinds of leftists (Jacobins, Leninists (aka "communists"), Maoists, Trotskyists, fascists, national socialists (which aren't exactly the same as fascists, by the way), ALF and similar environmentalists, etc). Similarly, there's a lot of non-leftist political philosophies (monarchism, republicanism, classical liberalism, minarchism, various kinds of anarchism, etc).

However, of all leftist movements Obama's positions are closest to "myenshevik" Marxism. McCain is a neocon, which makes him a Trotskyist.

[yucca.livejournal.com]

Mensheviks are more attractive than Trotskyists, I'm sure.

[averros.livejournal.com]

Well, it's kind of hard to say which is worse. No matter how you vote, you're going to be seriously disappointed.

"A stange game. The only way to win is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?"